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 We're bidding to become the .org TLD operator. Learn more about our bid at trusted.resource.org. A public show of support is one of the important judging elements, so we hope you'll take the time to learn what we'd like to do.
If you want to show your support for our effort but don't know what to say, you can also help out by participating in our freshly launched spread the dot campaign :-)
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Subject: IMS/ISC's bid to run the .org TLD
Posted by Joi Ito [via bot] at 08.07.02 @ 06.10 AM |
IMSが.org TLDを 運 営 す る ビ ッ ド をICANNに 出 し て ま す 。 今 出 て い る ビ ッ ド の な か で 一 番 ち ゃ ん と し て ま す 。 詳 し く は 僕 の 英 語 の ブ ロ グ エ ン ト リ ー を 見 て く だ さ い 。
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Subject: It will be a crime if IMS doesn't get .org
Posted by Tim O'Reilly at 06.30.02 @ 09.51 AM |
I wholeheartedly support the application of the Internet Multicasting Service to run the .org TLD.
Carl's history of taking on public-service projects to move the industry in the right direction, and Paul Vixie's unique expertise in the DNS (he is, after all, the maintainer of BIND, the software the entire net depends on for domain name services) makes this a must-have entry.
I know that the Internet Society, a wonderful organization on whose Board of Trustees I served for four years, is also applying to manage this registry. However, ISOC's application is in partnership with a commercial provider, and they will not be as intimately involved in the actual operations.
If we want to see how the domain name system can be treated as a public trust, there is no better place to start than with IMS and .org.
Keep .org as a public trust
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Subject: The Right Tool for the Job
Posted by Mike O'Dell at 07.03.02 @ 05.42 AM |
The folks behind the IMS proposal are, quite literally, the best that can be had for any price. The technical team sets the gold standard, the policy contingent has a proven track record coaxing reluctant organizations into the twentieth century, and the business and financial expertise is singular in ability and tenacity.
Nobody is doing *any* of this for the first time, and in the world of risk management, it doesn't get any better than this. If this were a conventional startup, VCs would be fighting to fund this team.
Full and fair disclosure - I believe I know almost everyone involved personally and hold them all in the highest regard both for ability and personal integrity. The other organizations in this "competition" do not warrant such a description.
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Subject: .org should be non-commercial and well managed
Posted by Eric Allman at 07.18.02 @ 04.45 PM |
I support the bid of IMS and ISC to manage the .org TLD.
I know that Paul Vixie has the technical know-how to keep the technology up and happy. Carl Malamud has experience in the business side of operations. And with folks like Rick Adams on the board, they will have the appropriate oversight.
eric
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Subject: pour la gestion du domaine .org par l'ISC/IMS
Posted by Thomas Harding at 07.25.02 @ 12.29 PM |
La gestion du domaine .org relevant du domaine associatif,
il est regrettable qu'elle soit confiee a une entite
commerciale.
La situation catastrophique du domaine .fr, dont la gestion
n'a pas ete deleguee au domaine associatif, et qui est de
fait interdit aux particuliers et aux associations (canton-
nes a des domaines de 3e niveau), rend les francais par-
ticulierement sensibles a ce probleme.
Par sa position et son experience de prescripteur de normes
Internet, et sa capacite a mettre en place et maintenir des
logiciels qui forment aujourd'hui le veritable squelette de
l'Internet (il n'y a pas d'alternative _viable_ a Bind, pas
a cette echelle), et par l'independance que lui donne la
multiplicite de ses sources de financement, l'Internet
Software Consortium est particulierement apte a une gestion
intelligente et raisonnee d'un domaine de premier niveau.
Les capacites de mettre a disposition et gerer d e tres
grands volumes de documents ont ete demontrees par l'IMS,
y-compris dans le domaine de la propriete intellectuelle.
La capacite d'auto-financement du service de noms n'etant
plus a demontrer, il est logique d'en voir les fruits
recoltes et geres par les institutions idoines. L'ISC et
l'ims presentent toutes les garanties necessaires a une
gestion intelligente de cette ressource.
--
Thomas Harding.
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Subject: Cartoon for Sep 03, 2002
Posted by Illiad at 09.03.02 @ 12.01 AM |
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Subject: Support for Internet Multicasting Service dot ORG bid
Posted by Marshall Kirk McKusick at 07.15.02 @ 12.16 PM |
I believe that Internet Multicasting Service
is by far and away the best organization to
manage the dot ORG domain.
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Subject: Rhizome.org supports this proposal.
Posted by Mark Tribe at 08.02.02 @ 08.34 AM |
Rhizome.org supports The Internet Multicasting Service and the Internet Software Consortium's bid to become the .org TLD operator.
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Subject: .org *belongs* to the community (or should!)
Posted by Dr. Thaddeus Ozone at 06.29.02 @ 10.23 AM |
Hmm, speaking as an independent content producer, this is one of the most logical, sensible proposals I've heard in years. Haven't we learned our lesson in these last couple of years of money hungry feeding frenzy that was the "dot.com explosion"? Some things on the internet belong in the commercial domain, this one, quite obviously, does not. I support the proposal from the Internet Multicasting Service and the Internet Software Consortium to control this top-level domain for the public good.
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Subject: ISC and IMS are it, there is no question.
Posted by Chris Yarnell at 07.17.02 @ 11.34 AM |
In my mind there is no question here. Over the years, ISC has dedicated itself to maintaining core pieces of the Internet for the community at large. It has hosted one of the most stable and busiest of the root nameservers, actively participated in the Internet standards process, maintained core reference implementations of Internet standards (BIND, DHCP, INN, etc), has hosted and supported the Internet Survey, etc, etc. ISC has proven itself to be a viable and trustworthy gatekeeper for important pieces of the net. dot-org is just another logical piece of the pie for this not for profit to take up.
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Subject: Best idea in years
Posted by Zeldman at 06.26.02 @ 02.08 PM |
We've all seen what happens when registries are entrusted to ham-handed monopolies with no concept of service and no goal beyond their own enrichment.
The notion of a non-profit running this registry as a public trust is so logical, it makes you question why all registries aren't run this way.
Malamud and his associates are competent, knowledgeable, and have a long history of doing good on the Internet. The same cannot be said of any organization currently running a web registry.
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Subject: I fully support you
Posted by Alex Popa at 07.29.02 @ 03.28 PM |
Considering the importance of the dot-org top-level domain to non-profit organizations, I think control of this TLD should be granted to one of those public organizations.
The .org TLD should not be turned into a revenue stream, because most .org domain holders do not focus on revenue or profit, but on public services.
I consider the IMS+ISC team to be the most appropriate entity in taking over the .org TLD. The ISC has served the public interest and helped the Internet community by developing widely-used open-source programs such as DHCP, BIND and INN. The IMS has had very good initiatives in the past, and has succeeded in all of them.
The joint bid by the two non-profit corporations seems technically and socially appropriate. Introduction of secure DNS, very fast zone publication, and complete transparency of operations are very strong arguments, in my opinion.
Keep up the good work, I hope you win!
Frankly, as the administrator of two .org domains (for which I don't see a penny - really), I'm happy to see the predatory VeriSign lose the TLD. I do agree that .org SHOULD be a public trust. As such, after reading the ISC/IMS documentation, as well as evaluating the opinion of other larger webmasters I respect, I'm throwing my support (for what it's worth) behind ISC/IMS. I hope all the good words I read come true, and I hope ICANN can see the big picture and handle this situation correctly.
(I'm going to go add the dot to my main page after I get done here...)
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Subject: I put my vote behind ISC/IMS to administer dot-org
Posted by Tom Geller at 07.17.02 @ 07.57 AM |
I trust ISC/IMS to administer dot-org, and there's not many organizations I'd say that about. Internet abuse such as identity theft, fraud and spam have thrived in no small part because of incompetent management of dot-com.
To see the roots of our current online malaise, one need look back no farther than the transfer of dot-com authority to a for-profit entity. I posit that it's generally dangerous to place something so important to the public weal in the hands of those whose mandate is to Grow the Bottom Line.
ISC and IMS have a history of acting selflessly and for the public good. To allow dot-org to serve the public, there can be no better administrator. I beg you to support these organizations' bid for the task.
--Tom Geller, Founder, SpamCon Foundation (for identification purposes only; does not imply organizational support)
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Subject: The "Internet Way"
Posted by David Eckhardt at 07.03.02 @ 01.05 PM |
I am excited to see true Internet movers and
shakers making such a well-thought-out proposal
to run .org the way it should be, to benefit
the people and organizations it should benefit.
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Subject: I fully support this
Posted by Mark Pelts at 07.17.02 @ 07.36 AM |
I think this is a great idea. I have been a user of BIND for years... well, actually WE ALL have been users of BIND for years. ISC has developed software that is essential to how the Internet operates and I fully believe they can effectivley manage the .org TLD. Knowing the kind of people who run ISC and write the software that ISC puts out I feel they can pull this off in a way that will rival the operations of other TLD managers. Please give them a chance.
Mark Pelts
Systems Engineer and Network Security Analyst
SRA International
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Subject: Give .org a good home: IMS/ISC
Posted by Jeremy Cooper at 07.16.02 @ 03.06 PM |
As a .org domain owner, and an Internet user for over a decade, I know and trust the ISC and IMS. They have the expertise, ability, and resources to take on the task of operating the .org TLD. It is most appropriate that they have made this bid, because not only do they understand the task, they have helped to define it; they have helped to shape the Internet infrastructure as we know it today and should be entrusted to maintain this valuble resource into the future.
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Subject: Proven track record
Posted by Rich Salz at 07.03.02 @ 09.21 PM |
I've been involved with the Internet for many years. At one time I wrote and maintained INN, an open source Usenet/NNTP implementation that was the world's most popular. during that time I had extensive involvement with many of the folks involved in this effort and got to see first-hand what others know by reputation: the "good guy" "in the spirit of the net" reputations of these people are without peer, and deservedly so.
It's rare that technology and attitude are both headed in the right direction. I support this proposal wholeheartedly.
 SEE ALSO: IMS/ISC: Competent and right-thinking, too ...
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Subject: Dream Team's Dream Proposal
Posted by Don Coleman at 07.05.02 @ 12.00 PM |
An All-Star group of people have come together to make a
tecnically solid proposal which I think will enhance the ability of the .org domain and the Internet to aid the Public Good. This is a proposal soley motivated by the technical and ethical merits -- not some fig leaf non-profit like some of the other proposals for the .org domain.
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